This man needs serious help but he just quintuples down on every bad decision because he is incapable of knowledge, wisdom, humility, and shame. What a sad existence.
I got blocked by him on X for responding to a racist anti-white post by telling him it was racist. He said “I’m white dumb shit” and I said “I know, fat ass” and he blocked me. Hit ‘em where it hurts.
I'm convinced this is how he chooses to live. I've followed his charm offensive vs. a loose association of former Opie and Anthony listeners and legions of lolcow spotters for a few years now and have seen no reason to believe he'll ever change. Somehow demanding real life consequences for online shenanigans was more important than making more of the many opportunities he's enjoyed.
I've followed this whole thing out of a sense of "Wow, so *there's* a trainwreck...", and haven't been able to really stop myself from watching it all.
About all I can say at this point? It's a wreck, there are a bunch of trains, and it is something you just can't not watch, no matter how bad you feel about it.
That said... Mr. Tomlinson's behavior exhibits a lot of congruent features I've observed with family members and acquaintances who've been (or, should have been...) clinically diagnosed with personality disorders. The one that strikes me as being most like Mr. Tomlinson was someone whose headshrinker described as being "...a reverse malign narcissist, someone who self-sabotages and does destructive things in order to play victim..."
That individual was just unable to be happy, unless they were persecuted and could make themselves feel as though they were being victimized. By everyone. Quite often, they would do things much like what Mr. Tomlinson has done, and they'd actively display pleasure at the "proof" that they were the victims... It's a weird deal, sort of like being your own Munchausen's by Proxy abuser. You feel like you're watching them punch themselves in the face, while they're screaming "STOP HITTING ME!!!! STOP! DON'T HIT ME!!!", and you're just going "You're doing this to yourself, you're the only one who can stop..."
And, of course, since they're getting the endorphin hits off being the victim, they simply cannot stop. Ever.
I think this behavior is somewhat learned; they find that being abused gives them a weird sort of emotional "hit", so they constantly set up situations so that they'll be abused. I've watched this same sort of weird behavior in some abused women, who serially seek out exactly the same sort of abusive partner, in relationship after relationship. It's disturbing and bizarre; you help them pull out of the situation, and then... They go right back into something exactly the same, like horses running back into a burning barn. After a couple of iterations, you're left there on the sidelines wondering if the abuse wasn't the damn point, all along...
Like a lot of behaviors, all of this has its roots in the endorphin cascade triggered by certain behaviors. They get the wrong pattern set up early in life, and not understanding how those channels got laid down, or that they're even there...? They keep right on doing what got them that initial hit, no matter what it was.
It's sort of like that deal with the schizophrenic chick who murdered her mother and sister; after they caught her, they asked for an explanation, a motive. Hers was pretty simple: Her grandmother died, and at the funeral, she met a guy. Afterwards, she wanted to see him again, and so she murdered her mother and sister, thinking he'd come to their funerals...
I'd suggest that something like this might be at the deepest, darkest roots of why Mr. Tomlinson does what he does. The man is more to be pitied than anything else...
I'm glad you can feel pity for him. I'm too bothered by his online behavior and shady things I believe he's done pursuing victory over his opponents at any cost. Too I have to believe he's inflicted a lot of costs on those around him. But they seem to go along with it; it occurs to me one through line in Patrick's life might be an ability to persuade others. Oh well. Honestly I think it would be so much better for him if he'd log off for a year or so. Probably true for a lot of us, come to think of it.
Well, it's a rough sort of pity I have for him. There's the sort of pity you see demonstrated by "Oh, poor baby, he's made bad life choices... Let's make him dinner and offer him a room in our home..." and then there's the sort I feel, which would better be typified as "Sheeeeeeeeit... That's a sad sumbitch. Glad I don't have to deal with him..."
Followed by doing absolutely nothing, aside from staying out of karma's impact area with regards to the man.
Having had several of this sort of person in my life, I heartily recommend cutting them out completely, going "No Contact", and sighing contentedly while alone with your mental health. These sorts of people will quite literally kill you with their toxicity, if you let them.
On another point... It ain't entirely accidental that a lot of art is associated with mental illness. Sometimes it is good art, like Van Gogh. Sometimes it isn't... It's up to the audience to decide which is which.
I'm not thinking that Mr. Tomlinson will be read much in years to come. In fact, he may even become our generation's Bulwer-Lytton. Without the in-life commercial success. Tried reading his stuff, couldn't get into it, and I'm the sort of person who will read cereal boxes if there isn't anything else to hand... If I abandon a work? It's bad. Really, really bad.
My local library has a couple of his books available as ebooks; I've tried to read a few. I don't mind a good eccentric science fiction writer now and then but... I just couldn't get into his stuff. I have run across fans of his books online though so, hey, more for them.
Well he responded to me with his enjoy prison tic🤣 I swatted him pointing where I live American simply don't apply. Then reminded him to finish the novels he owes his readers. Haven't heard back.
These are your delusions, child. The FBI knows I didn’t pay Quasi. They know you did. You will be held immobilized until the police arrive to arrest you for your many felony Substacks. Enjoy prison, stalker.
*chef’s kiss* Perfection.
This man needs serious help but he just quintuples down on every bad decision because he is incapable of knowledge, wisdom, humility, and shame. What a sad existence.
Fat, too.
I got blocked by him on X for responding to a racist anti-white post by telling him it was racist. He said “I’m white dumb shit” and I said “I know, fat ass” and he blocked me. Hit ‘em where it hurts.
I'm convinced this is how he chooses to live. I've followed his charm offensive vs. a loose association of former Opie and Anthony listeners and legions of lolcow spotters for a few years now and have seen no reason to believe he'll ever change. Somehow demanding real life consequences for online shenanigans was more important than making more of the many opportunities he's enjoyed.
I'm so sorry, Pat.
I've followed this whole thing out of a sense of "Wow, so *there's* a trainwreck...", and haven't been able to really stop myself from watching it all.
About all I can say at this point? It's a wreck, there are a bunch of trains, and it is something you just can't not watch, no matter how bad you feel about it.
That said... Mr. Tomlinson's behavior exhibits a lot of congruent features I've observed with family members and acquaintances who've been (or, should have been...) clinically diagnosed with personality disorders. The one that strikes me as being most like Mr. Tomlinson was someone whose headshrinker described as being "...a reverse malign narcissist, someone who self-sabotages and does destructive things in order to play victim..."
That individual was just unable to be happy, unless they were persecuted and could make themselves feel as though they were being victimized. By everyone. Quite often, they would do things much like what Mr. Tomlinson has done, and they'd actively display pleasure at the "proof" that they were the victims... It's a weird deal, sort of like being your own Munchausen's by Proxy abuser. You feel like you're watching them punch themselves in the face, while they're screaming "STOP HITTING ME!!!! STOP! DON'T HIT ME!!!", and you're just going "You're doing this to yourself, you're the only one who can stop..."
And, of course, since they're getting the endorphin hits off being the victim, they simply cannot stop. Ever.
I think this behavior is somewhat learned; they find that being abused gives them a weird sort of emotional "hit", so they constantly set up situations so that they'll be abused. I've watched this same sort of weird behavior in some abused women, who serially seek out exactly the same sort of abusive partner, in relationship after relationship. It's disturbing and bizarre; you help them pull out of the situation, and then... They go right back into something exactly the same, like horses running back into a burning barn. After a couple of iterations, you're left there on the sidelines wondering if the abuse wasn't the damn point, all along...
Like a lot of behaviors, all of this has its roots in the endorphin cascade triggered by certain behaviors. They get the wrong pattern set up early in life, and not understanding how those channels got laid down, or that they're even there...? They keep right on doing what got them that initial hit, no matter what it was.
It's sort of like that deal with the schizophrenic chick who murdered her mother and sister; after they caught her, they asked for an explanation, a motive. Hers was pretty simple: Her grandmother died, and at the funeral, she met a guy. Afterwards, she wanted to see him again, and so she murdered her mother and sister, thinking he'd come to their funerals...
I'd suggest that something like this might be at the deepest, darkest roots of why Mr. Tomlinson does what he does. The man is more to be pitied than anything else...
I'm glad you can feel pity for him. I'm too bothered by his online behavior and shady things I believe he's done pursuing victory over his opponents at any cost. Too I have to believe he's inflicted a lot of costs on those around him. But they seem to go along with it; it occurs to me one through line in Patrick's life might be an ability to persuade others. Oh well. Honestly I think it would be so much better for him if he'd log off for a year or so. Probably true for a lot of us, come to think of it.
Well, it's a rough sort of pity I have for him. There's the sort of pity you see demonstrated by "Oh, poor baby, he's made bad life choices... Let's make him dinner and offer him a room in our home..." and then there's the sort I feel, which would better be typified as "Sheeeeeeeeit... That's a sad sumbitch. Glad I don't have to deal with him..."
Followed by doing absolutely nothing, aside from staying out of karma's impact area with regards to the man.
Having had several of this sort of person in my life, I heartily recommend cutting them out completely, going "No Contact", and sighing contentedly while alone with your mental health. These sorts of people will quite literally kill you with their toxicity, if you let them.
On another point... It ain't entirely accidental that a lot of art is associated with mental illness. Sometimes it is good art, like Van Gogh. Sometimes it isn't... It's up to the audience to decide which is which.
I'm not thinking that Mr. Tomlinson will be read much in years to come. In fact, he may even become our generation's Bulwer-Lytton. Without the in-life commercial success. Tried reading his stuff, couldn't get into it, and I'm the sort of person who will read cereal boxes if there isn't anything else to hand... If I abandon a work? It's bad. Really, really bad.
My local library has a couple of his books available as ebooks; I've tried to read a few. I don't mind a good eccentric science fiction writer now and then but... I just couldn't get into his stuff. I have run across fans of his books online though so, hey, more for them.
Well he responded to me with his enjoy prison tic🤣 I swatted him pointing where I live American simply don't apply. Then reminded him to finish the novels he owes his readers. Haven't heard back.
These are your delusions, child. The FBI knows I didn’t pay Quasi. They know you did. You will be held immobilized until the police arrive to arrest you for your many felony Substacks. Enjoy prison, stalker.